...Weißt du, ich kenne da noch ein paar Leute, die so drauf sind, die einen haben eine rechtspopulistische Partei in Deutschland gegründet und der andere sitzt im weißen Haus.

The only common theme is that they are partnerships that would benefit the company in terms of development or growth into an area that they otherwise could not get access to,” said Ashkan Soltani, former chief technologist at the F.T.C.


Mr. Soltani and three former employees of the F.T.C.’s consumer protection division, which brought the case that led to the consent decree, said in interviews that its data-sharing deals had probably violated the agreement.

“This is just giving third parties permission to harvest data without you being informed of it or giving consent to it,” said David Vladeck, who formerly ran the F.T.C.’s consumer protection bureau. “I don’t understand how this unconsented-to data harvesting can at all be justified under the consent decree.”

Mecki:

Auch Apple hat mitgemacht, ist/war Nutznießer und Beteiligter an diesem flotten Datenhandel im Hintergrund. Und das wohl über Jahre hinweg. Ich weiß nicht, was es da zu relativieren und klein-, schön- oder wegzureden gibt. Sie haben mitgemacht. Nach vorne heraus gibt man sich als den Braven, und hinterrücks macht man es still und leise genau so wie die anderen auch bzw. profitiert von diesem Datenhandel, über die erhaltenen Nutzer-Daten freut sich Apple. Auch für Apple sind die keineswegs uninteressant und nutzlos. Oder was glaubst Du, warum die einen anderen Datensammler, Shazam, gekauft haben? Daten/Nutzerdaten sind das neue Öl im 21. Jahrhundert. Auch Apple lehnt es nicht ab und nimmt es, wenn es ihnen angeboten wird bzw. sie es so auf dem Silbertablett serviert bekommen (ob's nur in eine Richtung, hin zu Apple geflossen ist oder auch wechselseitig in die andere Richtung, wissen wir nicht, zugeben würde das sicher nie jemand).

The only common theme is that they are partnerships that would benefit the company in terms of development or growth into an area that they otherwise could not get access to,” said Ashkan Soltani, former chief technologist at the F.T.C.


Mr. Soltani and three former employees of the F.T.C.’s consumer protection division, which brought the case that led to the consent decree, said in interviews that its data-sharing deals had probably violated the agreement.

“This is just giving third parties permission to harvest data without you being informed of it or giving consent to it,” said David Vladeck, who formerly ran the F.T.C.’s consumer protection bureau. “I don’t understand how this unconsented-to data harvesting can at all be justified under the consent decree.”

Ich muss hier nix beweisen, ich behaupte auch nicht einfach so. Dieser N.Y.T.-Artikel ist zudem nicht der erste seiner Art, es gab vor Wochen schon einen früheren, da wurde die hier in Rede stehende causa schon einmal berichtet und benannt, dieser hier geht nun viel mehr ins Detail, nennt auch Details zu Apple.

…dieser hier geht nun viel mehr ins Detail, nennt auch Details zu Apple.

O.k., dann werde ich die mal zitieren (da du das ja nicht gemacht hast)
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Nur der Vollständigkeit halber!

Und im Übrigen hatte auch die New York Times selbst Zugriff auf die Daten…

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Facebook has reached data-sharing partnerships with at least 60 device makers — including Apple, Amazon, BlackBerry, Microsoft and Samsung — over the last decade, starting before Facebook apps were widely available on smartphones, company officials said.

But the partnerships, whose scope has not previously been reported, raise concerns about the company’s privacy protections and compliance with a 2011 consent decree with the Federal Trade Commission. Facebook allowed the device companies access to the data of users’ friends without their explicit consent, even after declaring that it would no longer share such information with outsiders. Some device makers could retrieve personal information even from users’ friends who believed they had barred any sharing, The New York Times found.

Most of the partnerships remain in effect, though Facebook began winding them down in April. The company came under intensifying scrutiny by lawmakers and regulators after news reports in March that a political consulting firm, Cambridge Analytica, misused the private information of tens of millions of Facebook users.

In the furor that followed, Facebook’s leaders said that the kind of access exploited by Cambridge in 2014 was cut off by the next year, when Facebook prohibited developers from collecting information from users’ friends. But the company officials did not disclose that Facebook had exempted the makers of cellphones, tablets and other hardware from such restrictions.

“You might think that Facebook or the device manufacturer is trustworthy,”said Serge Egelman, a privacy researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, who studies the security of mobile apps. “But the problem is that as more and more data is collected on the device — and if it can be accessed by apps on the device — it creates serious privacy and security risks.”

In interviews, Facebook officials defended the data sharing as consistent with its privacy policies, the F.T.C. agreement and pledges to users. They said its partnerships were governed by contracts that strictly limited use of the data, including any stored on partners’ servers. The officials added that they knew of no cases where the information had been misused.

The company views its device partners as extensions of Facebook, serving its more than two billion users, the officials said.

“These partnerships work very differently from the way in which app developers use our platform,” said Ime Archibong, a Facebook vice president. Unlike developers that provide games and services to Facebook users, the device partners can use Facebook data only to provide versions of “the Facebook experience,” the officials said.

Some device partners can retrieve Facebook users’ relationship status, religion, political leaning and upcoming events, among other data. Tests by The Times showed that the partners requested and received data in the same way other third parties did.

Facebook’s view that the device makers are not outsiders lets the partners go even further, The Times found: They can obtain data about a user’s Facebook friends, even those who have denied Facebook permission to share information with any third parties.

In interviews, several former Facebook software engineers and security experts said they were surprised at the ability to override sharing restrictions.

“It’s like having door locks installed, only to find out that the locksmith also gave keys to all of his friends so they can come in and rifle through your stuff without having to ask you for permission,” said Ashkan Soltani, a research and privacy consultant who formerly served as the F.T.C.’s chief technologist.

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The partnerships were briefly mentioned in documents submitted (PDF) to German lawmakers investigating the social media giant’s privacy practices and released by Facebook in mid-May. But Facebook provided the lawmakers with the name of only one partner — BlackBerry, maker of the once-ubiquitous mobile device — and little information about how the agreements worked.

The submission followed testimony by Joel Kaplan, Facebook’s vice president for global public policy, during a closed-door German parliamentary hearing in April. Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, one of the lawmakers who questioned Mr. Kaplan, said in an interview that she believed the data partnerships disclosed by Facebook violated users’ privacy rights.

“What we have been trying to determine is whether Facebook has knowingly handed over user data elsewhere without explicit consent,” Ms. Winkelmeier-Becker said. “I would never have imagined that this might even be happening secretly via deals with device makers. BlackBerry users seem to have been turned into data dealers, unknowingly and unwillingly.”

In interviews with The Times, Facebook identified other partners: Apple and Samsung, the world’s two biggest smartphone makers, and Amazon, which sells tablets.

An Apple spokesman said the company relied on private access to Facebook data for features that enabled users to post photos to the social network without opening the Facebook app, among other things. Apple said its phones no longer had such access to Facebook as of last September.

Samsung declined to respond to questions about whether it had any data-sharing partnerships with Facebook. Amazon also declined to respond to questions.

Usher Lieberman, a BlackBerry spokesman, said in a statement that the company used Facebook data only to give its own customers access to their Facebook networks and messages. Mr. Lieberman said that the company “did not collect or mine the Facebook data of our customers,” adding that “BlackBerry has always been in the business of protecting, not monetizing, customer data.”

Microsoft entered a partnership with Facebook in 2008 that allowed Microsoft-powered devices to do things like add contacts and friends and receive notifications, according to a spokesman. He added that the data was stored locally on the phone and was not synced to Microsoft’s servers.

Facebook acknowledged that some partners did store users’ data — including friends’ data — on their own servers. A Facebook official said that regardless of where the data was kept, it was governed by strict agreements between the companies.

“I am dumbfounded by the attitude that anybody in Facebook’s corporate office would think allowing third parties access to data would be a good idea,” said Henning Schulzrinne, a computer science professor at Columbia University who specializes in network security and mobile systems.

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Die Werbung, die ich bekomme habe, ist für mich dennoch nicht gut... Ich kauf mir kein Smartphone, um von der Firma dann Push Nachrichten zu bekommen, daß das XR und XS doch soviel besser als das Iphone 8 sind... Ich spiele gerne Fighting Games... und das erinnert mich sehr an SFV... Ich hab den Vollpreis für dieses Game gezahlt, nur das ich jetzt mit dem neuesten Patch Werbung zu sehen bekomme (Für mehr Ingame Währung und Boni)...
Sry ich kauf mir kein Iphone, um dann von Apple Werbung zu bekommen. Es muss reichen, daß ich den vollen Kaufpreis für das Produkt bezahlt habe...Gut, anderes Thema...

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